[Snelvuur]

So i downloaded these files from the website, tried to run it with buildupdate.php (or what the name was) with "tf2" or "orangebox" as optional parameter. But it doesn't create any files at all, it does show a lot of data when its finished but even with "hlserver" it doesn't create anything.

I dont get back any errors and i chowned everything to 777 to be sure, that didn't help. Also helped it out by creating a linux/win32 directory but no luck too.

Then run it clean with no php extensions (php -n i believe) and didn't work either.

So what am i doing wrong here? Because i was a "new" person here, took me a while to figure out i need this in order to install a game. Since the client/website doesn't inform you with a message saying "we dont host this content for this server, please install xxx" that would have been nice to have.

Eric

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[Andrew]

Hi Eric,

I agree that would be a nice feature, its on our todo list.

The build-update script won't download any files for you, it just inspects your already downloaded files and generates information for GameCreate about your game installs.

We have a rough guide at http://doc.gamecreate.com/AdminDomainPackagesPage and it expects your files to already be downloaded.

You can test it out quickly by just creating a text document called 'test.txt' where you'd normally put the files for example.

[Snelvuur]

I went through that url, but it wasn't *that* clear that it doesn't actually download the files. Also because i thought there would be something in place that will keep that up to date.

Like most "steam" games, when a update comes it needs updating, however i have windows hosts and linux hosts, one would run steam -update etc etc to update it for linux, you can script this automaticly under linux but i cant update the windows folder from within a linux host though.

The steam games normally update themself but in this case you would like the content server to get the new files and then distrubute, but how does the system know it can update it (if there are users playing)

Maybe a bit too much question i know, maybe i should read up a bit more too but documentation is a bit low at the moment.

(did manage to make some content, and distribute it, although it created a "/gamecreate/killingfloor/killingfloor" direcotry , which is a bit double, dont have it like that on the content server, just killingfloor. Tried this game out as a test, since it was also not one in my packages.txt.. have to try it all ofcourse)

[Andrew]

Yeah I know the doco about this area is a bit limited, we don't have time at the moment to expand it.

[Kybber]

[Andrew]

Updating servers when they become empty is on the wishlist

We have an unreleased version of the content master that supports automatic Steam updates (not fully tested yet) which regularly checks for Steam updates for your games - and deploys them if available.

At the moment though this is still a once-off operation you need to do.

[Snelvuur]

Thanks for the tips so far, its going to be time consuming but should be nice in the future. Basicly any "install fresh" would hold the core stuff, then all the other bits should be done with the config files (as addon to it) then if you want a new one, easilly use the same and tweak some config files. (or even more locally)

Still mind boggling at the moment, takes some time to settle in. I do most of the updates for our "community" which consist out roughly 20 left4dead(2), 7/8 tf2's and a bunch of css (5 i think) and then sometimes something else.. to see if it has enough fan base.. but doing this almost on your own is time consuming.

Instead of games can you also do this for addons? so if you have sourcemod, one could say add a new game, same folder as tf2, but then empty the tf2 folder and only put in the stuff for sourcemod. This would create a "addon" for tf2 no? (just thinking out loud here)

[Snelvuur]

Ok, i also got the windows part running, by doing the hlsupdatetool.exe with wine, that works fine (nice tip)

I got the installations done by the content server, also with the correct permissions (needs a chmod +x on executables etc etc)

leaves me only 2 questions left.

1. the content server always servers the files in "killingfloor/killingfloor/xxx" or for instance "tf2/tf2/xxx" folders, so its always a double name.

2. I can create multiple servers now, i can manage the server settings, map rotations and specific settings per server via the cfg. Only i also use sourcemod on tf2 servers with plugins, which are different for each server, how would one work with that? I need to include sourcemod with each server anyway, so i can put it into the content server, but that still leaves all the plugins..

if i can get those points fixed some way i think i'am finished

(tied to play with subdomains, but thats not the sollution i believe)

p.s. after some more digging, one could use for instance http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SourceMod_Configuration see last section, where it says that you can have a config file weither or not to load certain plugins. For each server you can have a file like that and disable the plugins you dont want loading. Assuming you add sourcemod to your standard tf2 build.

[Andrew]

[Snelvuur]

If i install it manually, that is a option. I just notice the more and more time i put in, the more complex it begins to work out.

If you host a lot of servers with the same builds , this is a really good sollution. Having variations makes it less appealing.

The whole point i started with this is to make sure the automatic updates from valve are easy to be done for anyone. If i make seperate installs i still need to run the update client maybe 6/7 times if a tf2 update comes. With the content server i only have to download it once, and then all goes fast.

So basicly what i end up with (i think) is get tf2 with sourcemod and all the other crap which the server needs anyway (like sourcebans/steambans/etc) and all the config files which are "different" leave them out of the package and do those manually.

Will let you know if/when i get this finished its a lot of work, and i am the only one in our community with knowledge about linux..